14 Aug According to Wikipedia, revision of the 常用漢字 (Jōyō kanji) was first proposed . The jouyou kanji list is the sum of all the characters taught in. 29 Sep Learn how to write and recognise the meaning of all Jouyou kanji (常用漢字). If you dedicate yourself everyday, this monstrous task can take as little as 3 months . How To Learn the 2,+ Joyo Kanji in 97 Days Kanji is the third of the three pillars of the Japanese writing system (the other two being hiragana and.

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I find this funny, being only 2 days after your post. Another reason to ignore the list. Views Read Edit View history.

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What Raichu says makes sense. High schools and universities started using the characters in their entrance exams since the academic year. But the most important thing to note is that the number of Kanji is irrelevant! Although I pretty much agree about its usefulness, you seem to have a lot of vitriol for something meant to be helpful.

The important number you should be paying attention to is 10, for vocabulary. You have to look at what their criteria were and judge those criteria, not the end result. As always i have learned by kanji through reading books jouyku the like and naturally picking them up at a pleasingly quick pace.

I think their motives are well founded. Simplified characters first round second round. I think you do make some valid points.

Kangxi Dictionary Xin Zixing. The list does serve a useful purpose for foreigners learning the language too. Neither have I and I doubt I will ever see those and a bunch of others in the list in real life.

The list burned me personally when I bought my first kanji dictionary. A great writing, one which I agree very much. Personally, I think we would have been better off without the damn list in the first place.


So I stopped learning from it. In the age of universal education, kanji using countries have the same levels of literacy as alphabet using countries. Jouyoou I already knew all the readings for the kanji, memorizing was a snap. I only ever considered the list a side aid, something i could look at to gauge my level and pick up a few new kanji here and there that seem useful. I should make up some index cards and memorize them one by joiyou. I was wondering if you knew how much of the kanji for the JLPT is from the Jouyou Kanji or if they test on commonly used kanji not found on the list.

I think that would be useful for creating most of a list, but it seems that some kanji might have been included for different reasons, regardless of their frequency.

I wonder if this is perhaps a rationale behind its continued inclusion? So kanjl if there are a small number of imperfections if the bulk of the work is sound? The Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Ministry instructed teachers to start teaching the new characters in fiscalso that junior high school students would be able to read them and high school students would be able to write them.

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I think its a handy and rather well structured list when u think about how vast and messy the giant pot of all kanji can be. I sure hope not! That makes perfect sense, right?! I did however read in some article that starting with this reform they will be revising kanji policies more often in reaction to the quick pace of change of kanji usage in the information age.

Differences in Shinjitai and Simplified characters. In my opinion, the worst problem with the list is that it fools innocent learners such as you and I into thinking we should use it somehow in our studies. Not only this it is most useful to foreign students and not to the Japanese because it is the Axe Radical. Syllabograms Furigana Okurigana Braille. It also was a way to keep my memorizing skills sharp by memorizing random things I would never need to know.


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Webarchive template wayback links CS1 Japanese-language sources ja All articles with dead external links Articles with dead external links from July Articles with permanently dead external links Articles containing Japanese-language text Wikipedia articles with NDL identifiers. Every word that is forced into obscurity just because it includes a kanji that is not on the jouyou list is a loss for the Japanese language. Vuredel I think the indignation comes kanni how ridiculously bad the list is and the fact that it affects us all who are learning Japanese negatively to some degree.

What kind of crap list were we using kanki these years? From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Knowing Radicals can remove a lot of the difficulty of leaning kanji. Three years later, there was news as recently as last month of a tentative list to be released in February of No jouyu ever set any limits on novels and magazines and other publications if I recall correctly except maybe encouraging them to use furigana for hard kanji. I actually like the jouyou list and glad they cared enough to kani it some. Clerical Regular Semi-cursive Cursive Flat brush.

I think the indignation comes from how ridiculously bad the list is and the fact that it affects us all who are learning Japanese negatively to some degree. I totally agree with you.